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Post by damianmagecraft on Dec 21, 2013 19:05:16 GMT
The only reason I even suggested it is because generally all we hear is "they need a proper business manager" "yeah they do but they can't afford one" or "yeah well are YOU going to pay for it?" etc etc. paying for one would do no good if he ignores the OMs advice. |
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Post by Jaymz on Dec 21, 2013 22:17:15 GMT
The only reason I even suggested it is because generally all we hear is "they need a proper business manager" "yeah they do but they can't afford one" or "yeah well are YOU going to pay for it?" etc etc. paying for one would do no good if he ignores the OMs advice. Oh I fully know this and stated as such earlier when I said he wouldn't be able to not be completely hands on anyway so it would be pointless. |
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Post by jorel on Jan 9, 2014 14:35:48 GMT
I still think the best idea would be for him to hire an actual editor that can clean up the lines and the text and make something more coherent of all of it.
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Post by Josh Hilden on Jan 9, 2014 16:27:51 GMT
I still think the best idea would be for him to hire an actual editor that can clean up the lines and the text and make something more coherent of all of it. You have no idea how many people have said that to the man directly.  |
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Post by jorel on Jan 9, 2014 18:10:43 GMT
Bummer. That doesn't change how I feel about it. Stubbornness in the face of adversity is ridiculous. And now he is gonna run with it til the Robotech things dries up.
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Post by MacrossMike on Jan 10, 2014 6:50:58 GMT
I still think the best idea would be for him to hire an actual editor that can clean up the lines and the text and make something more coherent of all of it. (Please don't take this as a defense of Kevin's position, because I don't intend it to be. My experience with Palladium's stuff is rather limited too, so take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt too.) Honestly, while I agree that his stuff COULD stand to be a lot better-organized, when I can actually find what I'm looking for in the books I've got (pretty much entirely Robotech and Macross II) I typically don't have any trouble understanding what his meaning was. I'm usually too busy getting annoyed by the inaccuracies. I'd say that hiring an outside editor wouldn't be entirely necessary... we just need to pack the man off to a mid-level college publishing class for a semester or two to learn some better practices. |
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Post by Josh Hilden on Jan 10, 2014 21:43:50 GMT
His justification for not hiring a good freelance editor is bullshit. If a rinky dink operation like mine can finally afford to do it he has zero excuse.
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Post by slaggdragon on Jan 10, 2014 22:43:16 GMT
I've always got the feeling that KS might feel threatened somehow by a good freelance writer/editor. Look at the whole Bill Coffin fiasco.
It's obvious to me that he loves to bask in the 'Kevin you are a god!', 'Kev this is the best stuff ever written!' adoration from his fans. Just read some of the Weekly Updates where he imparts the adoration and then does a 'Aww shucks...not little ol me, Joe Six Pack Kev, the only reason I live and breathe is to provide you all with EPIC Awesomeness.' brush off.
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Post by MacrossMike on Jan 11, 2014 18:57:54 GMT
His justification for not hiring a good freelance editor is bullshit. If a rinky dink operation like mine can finally afford to do it he has zero excuse. What, if you don't mind my asking, is Kevin's excuse for not hiring a good freelance editor? |
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Post by Josh Hilden on Jan 11, 2014 19:20:45 GMT
can't afford them. But the real reason IMO is fear of releasing any control outside the office, but the world just doesn't work that way anymore.
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Post by MacrossMike on Jan 11, 2014 19:37:12 GMT
can't afford them. But the real reason IMO is fear of releasing any control outside the office, but the world just doesn't work that way anymore. 's it just me, or has Kevin been using that excuse to justify virtually everything he's refused to do? Everything I've heard and read from people who've worked with/for him in the past points to him being a massive control freak, so I don't exactly have a hard time believing his real reason for refusing to hire an outside editor would be not wanting to relinquish control over his creative process to someone else. An outside editor likely wouldn't buy most of Kevin's excuses for delivering manuscripts late either... he might actually have to deliver his work on time for once. |
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Post by ninjabunny on Jan 11, 2014 20:39:15 GMT
The worst thing you can do as a writer is be your own editor.
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Post by Josh Hilden on Jan 11, 2014 22:34:24 GMT
The worst thing you can do as a writer is be your own editor. Absolutely true. I will add the caveat that if you are an indie writer and short of funds Beta readers are a good stop gap measure. It's not a perfect solution but if you are careful you can pull some decent results. It's a cost benefit thing and good freelance editors do cost ($5 a manuscript page is a good rule of thumb). |
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Post by colonel wolfe on Jan 15, 2014 7:15:11 GMT
This was the cover page from part of my benefactor pledge package...
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Post by Adam of The Old Kingdom on Jan 15, 2014 10:59:59 GMT
do you get pipes with that?
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Post by LDMcFear on Jan 15, 2014 18:17:33 GMT
do you get pipes with that? Nope, just a carton of Kools  |
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Post by Adam of The Old Kingdom on Jan 15, 2014 20:49:24 GMT
do you get pipes with that? Nope, just a carton of Kools Thank you for your support and for being pan of Palladium’s global family. |
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