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Post by Jaymz on Aug 29, 2014 2:49:11 GMT
Gather round boys and girls, it;s that time again....that;s right, weekly update time  Now here is the obligatory don't like it don't read it and away we go... www.palladiumbooks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=739:palladium-booksr-weekly-update-august-28-2014&catid=52:weekly-updates&Itemid=183"Whew, things continue to be crazy busy with all sorts of business matters, Gen Con follow-up, unpacking pallets of Robotech® RPG Tactics™ and prepping them to start shipping it out, doing advertisements, and all kinds of other stuff. " So in other words......doing your jobs....gotcha. Not for nothing but I really couldn't care less about how crazy or busy you are until results can be shown due to it being so crazy and busy. Get on with it already. "UPDATE: Rifts® Megaverse® in Flames™ Hardcover – Available now" Cool. Hope those that got one, enjoy it. "UPDATE: The Rifter® #67 – Available now!" Good "EW: Rifts® Northern Gun™ Two – 11x17 inch, Color Print – Available now!" er.....ok? "UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™ – Starting to ship" About damn time. "We have unpacked the initial container of Robotech® RPG Tactics™ products and prepped the contents for shipping." Good "Wayne Smith is heading to China next week to see the factory in operation." Um not for nothing but isn't this something that REALLY should have been done before manufacturing even began? I mean you are going over there now after all the actual work is done and when nothing can be changed? Okey Dokey then. I'm glad he is going and all but really, it;s too little too late in the grand scheme of things. As for no update.....are you shitting me? Wayne is not there so no update? No one t here is capable of posting a fraking update? ........yep i think I think I broke my eyeroll..... "UPDATE: The Rifter® #68 – Autumn Issue" Ok you do realize you actually annoy the hell out of a number of fans when you keep putting official material, that was apparently not good enough to keep in a book, in the Rifter right? It smacks of trying to cash grabbing at people who have already waited far to damn long for this book. "UPDATE: Palladium Fantasy®: Bizantium and the Northern Islands™" Glad fantasy is going to get something. It's been too long. "UPDATE: Robotech®: Expeditionary Force Marines Sourcebook One" Are you not going to start editing DR GE which is slated to be released BEFORE this book? "Over the next eight weeks we plan to focus on finishing 3-4 new book releases, shipping out Robotech® RPG Tactics™ to our Kickstarter backers and then to pre-orders and retailers." Ok no one can honestly remember when, if ever, that you managed to get 3-4 books done in 8 weeks and the next container from china hasn't even left yet last I checked. I don't mind optimism but COME ON MAN. Oye frakin vey. Anyway, see you nest week. |
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Post by kryptt on Aug 29, 2014 14:01:45 GMT
And so begins the speculation for wave two. I say we'll end up doing another vote for GC because it's for the good of the game to demo it in the RPG room where not too many will see it as opposed to the minis room. Of coarse it'll get stuck in customs again. I'm being optimistic since it's way more models than wave one.
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Post by MacrossMike on Aug 29, 2014 16:37:25 GMT
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Post by kryptt on Aug 29, 2014 17:31:37 GMT
Funny I was just listing to that yesterday. Same video and all.lol
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Post by ninjabunny on Aug 29, 2014 18:14:53 GMT
Who the fuck let Maryann into the unofficial Facebook page!? I hate that condacinding bitch. She is up to her same old shit. No one has a right to complain and they new to shut up and be happy with what they get. Ducking hate her.
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Post by MacrossMike on Aug 30, 2014 0:30:09 GMT
Who the fuck let Maryann into the unofficial Facebook page!? I hate that condacinding bitch. She is up to her same old shit. No one has a right to complain and they new to shut up and be happy with what they get. Ducking hate her. Complain? What right do you guys have to complain? I mean, you're only paying customers of a company that screwed the pooch so hard the ASPCA got involved... even though the pooch in question is purely metaphorical. Nope, no grounds for complaint there. |
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Post by NMI on Aug 30, 2014 20:23:17 GMT
Who the fuck let Maryann into the unofficial Facebook page!? I hate that condacinding bitch. She is up to her same old shit. No one has a right to complain and they new to shut up and be happy with what they get. Ducking hate her.  Maybe she got tagged in a post? |
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Post by kryptt on Aug 30, 2014 20:39:56 GMT
I don't see a problem if she wants in fine by me. Everyone's got a right to voice their point of view whether you agree with them or not. At least it'll encourage lively debates about what we love or hate about the hobby. Hell right now there's a lively debate on the RRT subforum about painted or unpainted minis. Both sides have strong feelings towards either or. As for the original topic I hope Wayne has fun in china, but come on no update. China isn't some backwoods country anymore. I have to agree with Jaymz on this one. I mean they do a lot of illegal downloading there so it's not like there's no internet. As for the PF books coming out along with four more in the space of a few weeks seems like major wishlisting. If the man can get it done then more power to him. I think even MacrossMike will agree it probably won't come to pass in the allotted time Kevin gave himself. Maybe one or two but nothing more.
I don't think it's a fools erand going to china now because it could help facilitate wave two and avoid the problems (whatever they may be) that plagued wave one. I'm hoping for legs that give us walking poses and not static or a chorus line. Maybe they can get rid of those stupid swoosh stands. Jeez there awful, they detract from an already ok looking model. Although I my end up painting a few in rainbow colors for the battloids. You know rainbow farts an all. :-)
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Post by kryptt on Aug 30, 2014 20:43:13 GMT
By the way Jaymz the way things went down in the flight sim I hope I don't become our groups Benny Dix.lol
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Post by MacrossMike on Aug 31, 2014 1:14:14 GMT
[...] As for the PF books coming out along with four more in the space of a few weeks seems like major wishlisting. If the man can get it done then more power to him. I think even MacrossMike will agree it probably won't come to pass in the allotted time Kevin gave himself. Maybe one or two but nothing more. Let's not be shy about it, friend... it'd be wishful thinking of the most blatant order for them to claim they'd get four books rolled out in the space of a few MONTHS. Hell, at the rate they're going, four books in TWO YEARS would probably be pushing it in terms of realism. You'll likely see UEEF Marines next year, but only because Harmony Gold is going to want something new they can use to commemorate the bad comedy they're calling Robotech's 30th anniversary... because fuck knows you won't be getting a new series EVER. (On a lighter note, did anyone mention that Shoji Kawamori confirmed there's a new Macross series in pre-production?) I don't think it's a fools erand going to china now because it could help facilitate wave two and avoid the problems (whatever they may be) that plagued wave one. I'm hoping for legs that give us walking poses and not static or a chorus line. Maybe they can get rid of those stupid swoosh stands. Jeez there awful, they detract from an already ok looking model. Although I my end up painting a few in rainbow colors for the battloids. You know rainbow farts an all. :-) Doing literally anything to try and speed the blow for RRT is a fool's errand... have you SEEN the frothing insanity on the Palladium forums? I know I totally predicted this back when RRT's Kickstarter was first announced, but it's another thing entirely to see how common it is for people who backed the Kickstarter to be whining themselves inside-out at the thought that the tabletop gaming community might expect them to actually paint their goddamn miniatures. If I had enough arms to facepalm mightily enough to do this idiocy justice, I would be worshiped as a god-incarnate in India... or at least start a career as a Spider-Man villain. |
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Post by kryptt on Aug 31, 2014 2:42:05 GMT
Yes I already knew the master was working on the next macross series. That Kawamorri is a genius when it comes to mecha designs. As for painting these things I may end painting my Z forces before I even look at the rdf stuff. Hell just three models just for one unit. I don't fault ND for doing that it makes sense. It would get confusing only having one mode represent all three modes. It's just going to be time consuming covering the glaring design problems.
Oh I've seen the insanity myself. In particular the painting thread That's locked. It's just as bad as the rt.com forums where you still get fans that want HG to make up with BW/studio nue so HG can shoehorn in more macross into the divine comedy that is RT. Talk about delusional.lol Both groups make me want to face palm when I read their shall we say ludicrous rantings. Though they do help pass the time when bored.
i thought Kevin promised the marines book this year? Wave two is for next year.lol I would love to see wave two this year but I doubt it. I hope I'm wrong but this last year has made me wiser.
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Post by Jaymz on Aug 31, 2014 11:53:40 GMT
Kevin promised the Marines book a long time ago. 3-4 books in 4-8 weeks.....we'll be lucky to get ONE book in the time frame and then we will be into the Xmas grab bag season which seems to put EVRYTHING at a crawl (though to be fair the Grab bags are pretty good even with the inflated shipping costs). I plan to buy a couple of grab bags this year to possibly round out my RRT stuff, or get a few books I don't have yet or maybe even get some of ht remaining Rifts minis.
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Post by MacrossMike on Aug 31, 2014 21:34:26 GMT
As for painting these things I may end painting my Z forces before I even look at the rdf stuff. Hell just three models just for one unit. I don't fault ND for doing that it makes sense. It would get confusing only having one mode represent all three modes. It's just going to be time consuming covering the glaring design problems. Meh... that ain't so bad, considering you don't have that allfired many of them. It's not like if you played Warhammer 40,000 with Tyranids, Orks, or Imperial Guard Astra Militarium as your army at Apocalypse scale. Those individual platoons of Guardsmen can come in groups of a good 40-50 dudes... and you can take six or more groups like that in your army, not to mention transports, other tanks, commanders, and other support units. Any RRT player who complaints to me about the number of models they've got to do is barking up the wrong damn tree... I have THREE ~5,000pt Apocalypse-scale WH40K armies now. (I'm pretty sure that's grounds for checking into rehab) Oh I've seen the insanity myself. In particular the painting thread That's locked. Yep, it's just going to make RRT that much less likely to succeed too... these schmucks got into a tabletop game, completely ignorant of the commitment of time and effort it usually takes. Now they're balking at it because they bought hundreds of miniatures and realized they have to actually assemble and paint that shit at some point. If they don't, they're not going to attract anyone to the game, because bystanders are going to see someone who half-assed it. It's just as bad as the rt.com forums where you still get fans that want HG to make up with BW/studio nue so HG can shoehorn in more macross into the divine comedy that is RT. Talk about delusional.lol Both groups make me want to face palm when I read their shall we say ludicrous rantings. Though they do help pass the time when bored. 's just further proof - as if any were needed - that Robotech is not capable of standing on its own. It is, and always has been, a parasitic franchise that long ago learned that the only host it could cling to with any hope of survival was Macross. It's never gonna happen, thank goodness, but it's funny all these Robotech fans who are realizing that Robotech is never going to go anywhere or do anything without first stealing material from somewhere else. i thought Kevin promised the marines book this year? Wave two is for next year.lol I would love to see wave two this year but I doubt it. I hope I'm wrong but this last year has made me wiser. Oh, he did... but with three-quarters of "this year" done and dusted, it's not likely he'll have anything to show for it by Christmas. He'll put the book out next year, and Harmony Gold will pretend that was all part of the master plan so they'll have SOMETHING to show for the 30 years of the industry's time they've wasted to no useful end. |
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Post by NMI on Sept 1, 2014 20:08:53 GMT
And so begins the speculation for wave two. I say we'll end up doing another vote for GC because it's for the good of the game to demo it in the RPG room where not too many will see it as opposed to the minis room. Of coarse it'll get stuck in customs again. I'm being optimistic since it's way more models than wave one. Again, the funds were simply not there to get into the miniatures room. It is not because Palladium didn't want to spend the money or that the M.A. Coordinators didn't want to spend the money, it is just that the money wasn't there. You can try and see conspiracy in every action you don't like, but unless we could have pulled the money out of our asses, it just was not going to happen.
As for Gen Con 2015, according to what Gary had told the rest of us before he resigned on his own, the Gen Con event organizers were so impressed with # of Palladium gaming events, the excitement that fans playing in Phaze's RRT demo's and those playing in the dozens of demo's downstairs that [and again, this is what myself, Nate and Victor were told by Gary. It has not yet been confirmed] but Gen Con event Staff & Derek stated that if we can schedule at least 5 RRT games a day, they will provide/donate [forgot what word Gary initially used] us a table in the miniatures room. From what Gary told us, this table is a $1,000 a day value.
After I have received the last couple of MA/GM surveys and go over them, comments, suggestions, good/bad things - the 3 coordinators [Nate, Victor and Myself] will discuss the surveys with Palladium and then I will have a separate discussion with Derek/Gen Con. It's a drawn out, detailed, somewhat complex process, but we need to make sure all of the details are properly handled. |
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Post by Jaymz on Sept 1, 2014 20:11:41 GMT
Here is hoping that next year it can be in the Mini room then *thumbs up*
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Post by kryptt on Sept 2, 2014 3:43:00 GMT
And so begins the speculation for wave two. I say we'll end up doing another vote for GC because it's for the good of the game to demo it in the RPG room where not too many will see it as opposed to the minis room. Of coarse it'll get stuck in customs again. I'm being optimistic since it's way more models than wave one. Again, the funds were simply not there to get into the miniatures room. It is not because Palladium didn't want to spend the money or that the M.A. Coordinators didn't want to spend the money, it is just that the money wasn't there. You can try and see conspiracy in every action you don't like, but unless we could have pulled the money out of our asses, it just was not going to happen.
Just curious, how come PB didn't have funds available for the minis room?
No conspiracy here. Only speculation on when wave two might come out. As to conspiracies I'll leave it to others to make up.
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Post by NMI on Sept 2, 2014 12:47:12 GMT
Again, the funds were simply not there to get into the miniatures room. It is not because Palladium didn't want to spend the money or that the M.A. Coordinators didn't want to spend the money, it is just that the money wasn't there. You can try and see conspiracy in every action you don't like, but unless we could have pulled the money out of our asses, it just was not going to happen.
Just curious, how come PB didn't have funds available for the minis room?
No conspiracy here. Only speculation on when wave two might come out. As to conspiracies I'll leave it to others to make up.
As I mentioned in the part of my comment that you didn't quote, a table in the mini's room is approximately $1,000 a day. If you want a more specific answer, I would suggest you contact Palladium directly. |
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Post by kryptt on Sept 2, 2014 19:20:44 GMT
It's irrelevant now since karma con has come and gone. Although I can see why some backers feel that there isn't much left of the 1.4M or that PB and HG are spending as little as possible. Doesn't matter now that the game is out in the wild. So good for PB. Maybe next week Wayne will have good news on wave two.
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Post by NMI on Sept 3, 2014 13:57:40 GMT
It's irrelevant now since karma con has come and gone. Although I can see why some backers feel that there isn't much left of the 1.4M or that PB and HG are spending as little as possible. Doesn't matter now that the game is out in the wild. So good for PB. Maybe next week Wayne will have good news on wave two. people can assume all that they want about where and how the money is being spent but unless they work for any of the companies involved, then that's all that they have.... assumptions! |
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Post by MacrossMike on Sept 3, 2014 14:08:29 GMT
It's irrelevant now since karma con has come and gone. Although I can see why some backers feel that there isn't much left of the 1.4M or that PB and HG are spending as little as possible. Doesn't matter now that the game is out in the wild. So good for PB. Maybe next week Wayne will have good news on wave two. people can assume all that they want about where and how the money is being spent but unless they work for any of the companies involved, then that's all that they have.... assumptions! But then again, if the companies are perfectly willing to tell people that "the money wasn't there" to actually promote the product to its target demographic, they're going to want to know why... especially for a crowdfunded project that took home approximately $1.3 million USD (after fees). Not having any money left from such a staggering sum (compared to what was asked for development) is naturally going to get people wondering if there's been some massive fiscal irresponsibility going on... especially since four-tenths of one percent of the project budget for promoting the game at conventions shouldn't be a bridge too far. |
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Post by kryptt on Sept 3, 2014 15:01:24 GMT
It's irrelevant now since karma con has come and gone. Although I can see why some backers feel that there isn't much left of the 1.4M or that PB and HG are spending as little as possible. Doesn't matter now that the game is out in the wild. So good for PB. Maybe next week Wayne will have good news on wave two. people can assume all that they want about where and how the money is being spent but unless they work for any of the companies involved, then that's all that they have.... assumptions! That's right their just assumptions. You are correct. The other backers and fan friends can waste their time making assumptions. I'll be busy building and fixing my many RRT models. I don't know what's left out of 1.3m but hopefully there's enough to finish wave two. Dude relax, no need to get excited. For once I'm agreeing with you about something. Although since PB wasted money last year on inaccurate advertising I was surprised they didn't spend it at GC to advertise it properly. Since you say the money wasn't there it is worrisome to those of us not in the know. No matter what people will speculate no matter what. It's human nature. |
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Post by NMI on Sept 4, 2014 13:58:18 GMT
people can assume all that they want about where and how the money is being spent but unless they work for any of the companies involved, then that's all that they have.... assumptions! But then again, if the companies are perfectly willing to tell people that "the money wasn't there" to actually promote the product to its target demographic, they're going to want to know why... especially for a crowdfunded project that took home approximately $1.3 million USD (after fees). Not having any money left from such a staggering sum (compared to what was asked for development) is naturally going to get people wondering if there's been some massive fiscal irresponsibility going on... especially since four-tenths of one percent of the project budget for promoting the game at conventions shouldn't be a bridge too far. I dont know for sure, but I would hazard to guess that the fees were more then $100k. Again, much like everyone, I am speculating on the following: Amazon fees [for processing the payments] Kickstarter fees [should be obvious] Harmon Gold/Licensing fees These 3 would most like had to have been paid up front before anything else got started. |
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Post by MacrossMike on Sept 4, 2014 15:39:51 GMT
But then again, if the companies are perfectly willing to tell people that "the money wasn't there" to actually promote the product to its target demographic, they're going to want to know why... especially for a crowdfunded project that took home approximately $1.3 million USD (after fees). Not having any money left from such a staggering sum (compared to what was asked for development) is naturally going to get people wondering if there's been some massive fiscal irresponsibility going on... especially since four-tenths of one percent of the project budget for promoting the game at conventions shouldn't be a bridge too far. I dont know for sure, but I would hazard to guess that the fees were more then $100k. Again, much like everyone, I am speculating on the following: Amazon fees [for processing the payments] Kickstarter fees [should be obvious] Harmon Gold/Licensing fees These 3 would most like had to have been paid up front before anything else got started. Well, as far as fees go... yes, it's going to be about $100k, since Kickstarter takes 5% and Amazon takes 3-5%, so that still leaves more than $1.3 million to play with. Unless Harmony Gold's licensing fee is so ruinously huge that it obliterated most of the budget, there's no real excuse for not having money set aside to demo the game to its intended audience. |
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Post by NMI on Sept 5, 2014 17:01:23 GMT
To avoid saying more than I should, I will now bow out of this conversation.
Enjoy the conspiracy!
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Post by MacrossMike on Sept 5, 2014 19:31:08 GMT
To avoid saying more than I should, I will now bow out of this conversation. Enjoy the conspiracy! Bah, this kind of thing is too sterile and boring for anything melodramatic like a conspiracy... the worst anyone's likely to accuse Palladium of here is poor project management and lousy planning, and since poor planning and project management is so endemic to every industry and company size, that's like accusing someone of breathing. How does that saying go? "No battle plan survives contact with the enemy?" Besides, we all know that the really fun Robotech conspiracy theories put out there by Harmony Gold's own moderators all revolve around how influential and evil I am... they get more entertaining every year, especially when multiple theories from the same guys start contradicting each other. |
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Post by Prysus on Sept 5, 2014 22:46:29 GMT
Greetings and Salutations. Well, I by no means have any inside information, and what I type here will be gueses just like most other people. However ...
Okay, during the KS I remember hearing that there's always going to be a % that doesn't pay. So out of the final KS figure, the final figure actually paid is probably lower. Then we have the KS/Amazon fees already discussed. Quite possibly a Harmony Gold fee (because though PB can produce the RPG books, the TT is a different beast, and I'd guess requires different licensing). We don't know any of these numbers, but just mentioning a few (some of which have been pre-established). Moving on ...
Then we have the actual factory time (plus not sure how the worker's expenses come in, but I there's possibly a few for the # of workers and the # of hours type fees as well ... or at least that's how some of the production companies I've worked for charge their clients, from my understanding on the production end and not the billing end). The initial figures (what was it, $70k?) was probably a bare minimum. With all the support, Palladium probably decided on a bigger run (though the Backers are also receiving product, the KS was to fund the project as a whole, not just the items they were receiving). Bigger run means more factory time and more man hours. This also means more money for supplies.
Also, the larger the support, the more new items were added in. This meant more scultping (is that the term?) and such for the new models. This is more money. So in addition to those who have to build them, they then need more money for more molds, and more factory time again. Once again, more supplies as well.
Then there's other factors, such as the issue (I remember hearing about) where the Ninja Division designs didn't work with the factory system (or some such) and had to be redone. This of course, will add on more fees as it's reworked.
They may have also spent money (or have other money set aside) for other advertising. While Gen Con can be important, they may have figured their other avenues of advertising more so. This one is just pure speculation, admittedly. However, I figure they do have to have an advertising budget, and unfortunately it seems Gen Con table in the TT section (for Thurs-Sun would be $4,000, or am I missing a day and the price goes up?) may not have been the best use of that money (while nice, $4000 spent on a different type of advertising that may be viewed by a wider audience for more than a very limited time might be better spent). I know very little about advertising or Gen Con, so I won't try to touch much on that one in general.
Another factor we shouldn't overlook is that even though Palladium was requiring only a smaller fee to succeed, that does not mean that was the FULL expense of starting this project, probably just the bare minimum. More than likely, they'd have required a loan and such to pay the rest. However, with the success of the KS, they may have been able to forgo the loan (or just take a much smaller one) and used a larger portion of the KS to fund the project (which is what the KS is actually meant to do).
Anyways, just a few thoughts. I'll admit mine are speculation as much as anyone else's, I just decided to speculate on the side of Palladium (as a lot of speculation tends to be the other way around). By no means am I authority on the matter. Could Palladium have just mismanaged the money? Maybe. I don't know. I just like to try and point out a few possibilities people might otherwise overlook. Farewell and safe journeys. |
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Post by kryptt on Sept 6, 2014 16:13:47 GMT
Prysus that's the problem. If your guess is correct then where does that leave wave two? Since you or I don't know it's moot for now. Although from the beginning I never doubted we would get our pledges including wave two. I guess it's because I've never participated in a ks before this one. So when I pledged to me it seemed more like a preorder than just helping PB make the game. As long as PB gets wave two out the RT fanboys will help PB fund the next era.
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Post by Prysus on Sept 7, 2014 0:08:14 GMT
Prysus that's the problem. If your guess is correct then where does that leave wave two? Since you or I don't know it's moot for now. Although from the beginning I never doubted we would get our pledges including wave two. I guess it's because I've never participated in a ks before this one. So when I pledged to me it seemed more like a preorder than just helping PB make the game. As long as PB gets wave two out the RT fanboys will help PB fund the next era.
Greetings and Salutations. Well, as stated, I'm just guessing. However, Palladium has said they're already making preparations for Wave Two and such, so that should still be on track. As for my personal thoughts/guesses on the matter (and in regards to money) ...
They'd have to have money set aside for it (if they're smart, at least enough funds for the projected cost, plus some extra for when things go wrong). Ensuring they have that money for Wave Two instead of worrying about advertising at Gen Con by spending a few grand for a single table to me would be the wiser move. When Wave Two is done will they maybe still have a few thousand left for advertising? Possibly. But would it be worth risking Wave Two for that table now? I'd think not.
First, Wave Two is just too important and making sure it gets out before spending more the money is probably best. I hope that's the way Palladium is thinking. However, that doesn't mean they've mismanaged anything (yet). After all the complications of Wave One, they're preparing for more problems with Wave Two (and not overspending until that's done). That's my thoughts/hopes at least.
Second, as important as Gen Con is (I guess, I don't really know ... never been, and know nothing about it, or the TT industry, or advertising in general), Wave One is only like half the game, right? They're probably better off holding off full advertising until the game is complete (or near complete, like the first crate of Wave Two is in shipping). As antsy as KS backers are on the matter, the last thing they need is a bunch more hype and a whole new crowd to be antsy as they settle in and see the problems already going on (Note: While I agree it's a good thing they don't advertise it in full yet, I'm not sure if Kevin and team will view it the same way I do ... in fact, based upon prior experiences, they probably didn't think of it the same way I did).
I'm not going to claim to have all the answers and I'm not directing this at any one individual, so much as in general. When people start discussing money mismanagement because they didn't spend thousands on a single table, I figure maybe they haven't figured on all the other possibilities. Maybe Palladium has mismanaged funds, I don't know. Just that I don't want to jump to that conclusion when I feel there are a lot of other costs they'd probably have to worry about. Yes, they asked for a low amount, and yes they received a very large amount, but that doesn't mean the low amount is all that's needed and the rest is now spare change either. That is all.
I'm a paranoid optimist. The paranoid in me tends to look at the bad and how much worse it might really be, but the optimist tries to always look for the good and give the benefit of the doubt. I haven't personally invested in RTT (not my type of thing, and I was actually on a personal ban from buying anything PB until NG1 and NG2 came out), but I do hope all the best for it (for both Palladium and the backers who invested). Farewell and safe journeys to all.
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