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Post by ninjabunny on Apr 5, 2014 19:00:19 GMT
I have been reading the boycott page and Mr.Grey has gone from searching the world for religion in his youth and dealing with drug addicts in America to being a full trained solider. I know in the states it is illegal to claim military servies falsely. I guess down under they don't care about that.
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Post by raiden on Apr 5, 2014 19:38:56 GMT
There's a boycott page?
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Post by MacrossMike on Apr 5, 2014 19:40:41 GMT
What're we boycotting now?
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Post by Jaymz on Apr 5, 2014 20:18:07 GMT
A person from the Palladium Forums who has aspirations to be a freelancer for them and is..... not a very good influence on said forums.
There are several boycott pages on Facebook in regards to this person (all run by the same administrator)
The claims indicated are (as above)
Military service
as well as others that I and others have heard such as:
Ghost writer on unproduced Young Justice episodes Publication of more than one book Biker Gang Membership Drug related lifestyle Finding religion Indicating that homosexuality is a choice that individuals make
There may be more. personally I'd rather he not be discussed at all but I will not censor people from doing so unless it gets to a point where I must step in.
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Apr 5, 2014 20:23:51 GMT
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Post by ninjabunny on Apr 5, 2014 20:23:51 GMT
I figured it would be safer to talk about using mouth off versus the Facebook page. Keeping things clean.
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Post by raiden on Apr 5, 2014 20:28:55 GMT
I know exactly of whom you're speaking. Just that the last time I tried to search for a boycott page against him, it always came up that the page was unavailable. I just figured he'd bitched about it so much that FB had to take it down for fear of him spamming them.
Links?
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Post by ninjabunny on Apr 5, 2014 20:35:25 GMT
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Post by raiden on Apr 5, 2014 20:57:00 GMT
Wow... That girl has no grasp of English...
I'm going one step further though. I'm boycotting all of Palladium. They will never see a dime from me again. Not until certain people are removed from their positions.
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Post by MacrossMike on Apr 5, 2014 21:15:22 GMT
A person from the Palladium Forums who has aspirations to be a freelancer for them and is..... not a very good influence on said forums. So... he's not a freelancer for them right now, and there's no indication that Palladium is thinking of hiring him, yes? The claims indicated are (as above) Military service Assuming you're blatant enough to get caught and prosecuted, many countries consider falsely claiming to be current or former military a crime... of course, you have to actually be blatant enough about it for law enforcement or civil authorities to care. I know a few fans on Robotech.com who, for years, falsely presented themselves as career soldiers in the UK... though they were more erudite hoaxers whose bullshit did fool some folks. Ghost writer on unproduced Young Justice episodes Publication of more than one book Biker Gang Membership Drug related lifestyle Finding religion Indicating that homosexuality is a choice that individuals make Well, to be entirely fair... it's not surprising if someone is making hard- or impossible-to-verify claims in a vain effort to promote themselves online, where virtual anonymity is assured unless you do something really horrible. I'd also like to point out that "publication of more than one book" is not hard in a day in age when any schmuck can pay to have a few thousand copies of a book printed, vanity press-style. The rest is just laughable.
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Post by Jaymz on Apr 5, 2014 21:20:55 GMT
Oh I believe at most he is the age of 30 or so.
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Post by Jaymz on Apr 5, 2014 21:21:29 GMT
And no at the moment he is not a Palladium freelancer though he does have articles in the Rifter.
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Post by MacrossMike on Apr 5, 2014 21:34:43 GMT
And no at the moment he is not a Palladium freelancer though he does have articles in the Rifter. 'k then, I don't really see a reason to get bent out of shape (much). I mean, yes... he's clearly a cretin, a bigot, and probably* a liar, and quite possibly an evolutionary throwback with a defective brain, but in the free nations of the world people are entitled to act like tits s'long as they're not hurting anybody physically or financially. My two cents would be "Don't feed the troll".
* We can't say for certain he's lying, but it seems very likely he is.
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Post by ninjabunny on Apr 5, 2014 23:19:23 GMT
And no at the moment he is not a Palladium freelancer though he does have articles in the Rifter. 'k then, I don't really see a reason to get bent out of shape (much). I mean, yes... he's clearly a cretin, a bigot, and probably* a liar, and quite possibly an evolutionary throwback with a defective brain, but in the free nations of the world people are entitled to act like tits s'long as they're not hurting anybody physically or financially. My two cents would be "Don't feed the troll".
* We can't say for certain he's lying, but it seems very likely he is. when stories contradict themselves I can safely say he is a lair. He has also threatened to hack the boards, members of the boards and the palladium web page. Now I know the man running the boycott has a major bone to pick with Liam. He cost the individual several spits in the rifter.
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Post by MacrossMike on Apr 5, 2014 23:49:47 GMT
when stories contradict themselves I can safely say he is a lair. He has also threatened to hack the boards, members of the boards and the palladium web page. Now I know the man running the boycott has a major bone to pick with Liam. He cost the individual several spits in the rifter. slowpoke.jpg I just realized the bloke we're talking about is Akashic Soldier, and I have to admit connecting his behavior on Facebook with some of the more bizarre things he's said on the Palladium forums explains a LOT. Like his perplexing desire to assign Christian messianic symbolism to a notoriously atheistic series like Macross. Sounds like your average internet troll to me... he probably doesn't have the first clue how to hack anything, talks a big game but can't back it up, etc.
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Post by damianmagecraft on Apr 6, 2014 0:04:51 GMT
you forgot my favorite... He is a card carrying member of Mensa. But has never had to pay any membership fees to belong to said group. A quick internet search of Mensa's home page indicates there are yearly membership dues. (rates vary according to country). I do not mind when someone tries to prevaricate... But there is just no excuse for badly presented easily refuted prevarication. In other words... If you are going to lie to me; at least put some effort into not getting caught at it.
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Post by Sci-Fi on Apr 6, 2014 3:22:52 GMT
Yeah, I remember him misspelling many words in the post he claimed to be in Mensa.
Don't forget the claims of having to sneak over and fight the neighbors dogs at night to eat their dog food as a child. That one was one of my favorite tall tales. Yes.. he claimed he had to sneak to a neighbors house.. and fight off dogs.. to eat their kibble.
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Post by MacrossMike on Apr 6, 2014 3:47:46 GMT
Yeah, I remember him misspelling many words in the post he claimed to be in Mensa. To be entirely fair, misspelling words isn't necessary an indication of stupidity... I've known a fair few extraordinarily bright engineers who've been absolutely atrocious writers able to cause even the hardiest spellchecker to break down in tears of frustration. Writing ability is not a wholly reliable indicator of actual, practicable intelligence. The substance of his writing, on the other hand, is a fairly reliable indicator that he's not what you'd call Mensa caliber. Also, the dog food eating might be a tip-off... Don't forget the claims of having to sneak over and fight the neighbors dogs at night to eat their dog food as a child. That one was one of my favorite tall tales. Yes.. he claimed he had to sneak to a neighbors house.. and fight off dogs.. to eat their kibble. Oh good grief... it's like he can't decide if he wants his wholly fictional personal history to be that of Eminem or Sheldon Cooper from Big Bang Theory. Reminds me of the time one of the losers my sister dated to get a rise out of our parents accidentally ate fairly half a box of dog biscuits without realizing he was eating dog food, because we'd put them in one of those little vacuum-seal jars. He, at least, had enough brains not to consider that a point of pride, though...
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Post by Sci-Fi on Apr 6, 2014 4:01:27 GMT
Yeah I know. I'm a horrible speller myself. It was just ironic. There were misused words too if memory serves, but it's been a while. I could be misremembering.
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Post by joshuagoliath on Apr 7, 2014 3:35:56 GMT
Sadly, in the states, that's no longer the law. It was decided that it was protected by free speech.
It's only a crime if he PROFITS from it, in any way, by getting something (even a discount) that would not be given to him otherwise.
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Post by joshuagoliath on Apr 7, 2014 3:46:56 GMT
Sorry, for a WRITER, I consider spelling and proper word usage kind of key indicators.
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Post by damianmagecraft on Apr 7, 2014 5:56:56 GMT
Sorry, for a WRITER, I consider spelling and proper word usage kind of key indicators. ask any copy editor or publisher... Writers are notorious for poor spelling and grammar.
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Post by Sci-Fi on Apr 7, 2014 6:05:37 GMT
In this case it was more than bad spelling, it was using a completely wrong word that just so happened to start with the first letter. I just forget what it was. It was pretty funny at the time.
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Post by damianmagecraft on Apr 8, 2014 7:56:41 GMT
In this case it was more than bad spelling, it was using a completely wrong word that just so happened to start with the first letter. I just forget what it was. It was pretty funny at the time. A malapropism? Yeah... that is indicative of something else entirely. Professional writers avoid those unless intentionally going for satire (in which case the entire work should be overloaded with them).
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Post by MacrossMike on Apr 8, 2014 15:53:39 GMT
Sadly, in the states, that's no longer the law. It was decided that it was protected by free speech. It's only a crime if he PROFITS from it, in any way, by getting something (even a discount) that would not be given to him otherwise. If he uses those fraudulent claims to get a job, that's profiting from it...
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Post by Sci-Fi on Apr 8, 2014 18:30:22 GMT
Guys he's in Australia. Him breaking the law doesn't really matter except in a really abstract sort of way. Sure one can look down on him for it, but it's not what you'd call actionable.
It's sort of the converse of the threats of lawyers from down under being sicked on people here in the states. It's not going to happen. Is it possible in the universe? Sure, but to even try would cost so much money that you can all sleep safe and sound. Can you even imagine the complexity of trying to form actionable international lawsuit pertaining to online speech? lol. Can multimillion dollar corps try? Sure. You or me or anyone on THIS forum, or the others? No.
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Post by MacrossMike on Apr 8, 2014 20:31:41 GMT
Guys he's in Australia. Him breaking the law doesn't really matter except in a really abstract sort of way. If he starts contact work with an American company then it's easier to get to him, but really... if he's fraudulently claiming experience on his CV, then that's Palladium's bone to pick. Lying on your CV is usually an instant-dismissal offense, sometimes also the kind of thing that gets people sued for the money they've already been paid because they accepted it under fraudulent terms. It can matter in a concrete way... just not to 99.9999999999% of the people who actually give two shits about his behavior. (and WHY they should give two shits... I have no idea.) Can you even imagine the complexity of trying to form actionable international lawsuit pertaining to online speech? lol. Can multimillion dollar corps try? Sure. You or me or anyone on THIS forum, or the others? No. You'd be surprised... I've seen more ridiculous things than that make it through the courts. Harmony Gold alone practically deserves an entire volume in the anthology Ridiculous Litigious Shenanigans Nobody Should Have Ever Pursued. Then again, I'm only too familiar with ridiculous nonsense like this, since I've seen employees on one continent go after managers on another for discrimination over comments published after hours on Facebook.
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Post by Sci-Fi on Apr 8, 2014 23:14:43 GMT
Right, but all in the same country with lawyers that have passed the bar in the state of the lawsuit etc. Not literal international lawsuits from again, literally the other side of the planet, over a douchtwaddle from the far side of the planet crying that people are mean to him online. Remember Slander has to prove the 'slanderous' stuff isn't true.
That's my point. It'd be far too expensive for any sort of realistic return. To be fair, same thing would go the other way, it'd be far too expensive and stupid to try and sue him over crap said on facebook or the boards. (Not that anyone I know has indicated they'd sue... but some have indicated they'd like to smack the shit out of him. lol far different.)
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Post by ninjabunny on Apr 10, 2014 17:52:43 GMT
Does anyone else remember him saying he backed ng1 and 2? Because someone told me he said he woul be picking up a copy once it came out. Now I know most of us backed them so we aren't picking up copies we are getting them. I am glad his toxic element isn't here on these boards.
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Post by writersblock on May 2, 2014 23:08:51 GMT
Someone tag one of his claims about Military Service and send it to one of the sites that outs these fakers. You can find them on google and you tube. As well, if anyone can get his real name, Stolen Valor has a website that gives instructions on how to (for free) request military records.
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Post by Sci-Fi on May 3, 2014 4:53:05 GMT
He's from down under. Different country, different military, on the literal other side of the world.
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