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Post by Janus on Jan 17, 2014 15:02:31 GMT
So I know there are comics fans out there and will remember the What If series of comics presented by Marvel. Those of you not familiar with these comics have in their own way at some point said what if this hero had this happen or this had happened instead. So, in spirit of fun and with a little inspiration from the Bat-Family thread, I present to you this question...
What if Batman were a mutant?
How would design him? What powers would he have? How did he become mutant? Is he a human mutant or an animal mutant?
I do not have the HU series of books yet (sure hope Santa Kev is good to me) so I cannot really add to this conversation other than hey that is cool sounding, but the rest of you do. The person who comes up with the best Mutant Batman gets the coveted Stan Lee award* and complete bragging rights to all of his forum buddies that he has mastered the mixed genres.
So come on, let us see what you got!
*There really is no Stan Lee award. I do not think I have an autographed napkin from the man. However, you can pretend you received it in the mail and can try to sell your idea to either Marvel for a chance to meet Stan (that probably will also not work, but a fella can dream).
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Post by Sci-Fi on Jan 17, 2014 20:39:28 GMT
Are we trying to 'make' the Bat with mutant powers? or kinda taking them and running?
If we're taking them and running. Darkness control, and or APS shadow would rock. lol
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Post by Janus on Jan 17, 2014 21:08:08 GMT
Are we trying to 'make' the Bat with mutant powers? or kinda taking them and running? If we're taking them and running. Darkness control, and or APS shadow would rock. lol Taking them and running. Basically if YOU were given the chance to create Batman and you worked for Marvel (heh, heh) how would you make the Batman. This is not let us explain how to build Batman with the "he must be a mutant" reasoning, but what if Batman were a mutant, how would you build him. Let us see what you all got.
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Post by Sci-Fi on Jan 17, 2014 21:34:01 GMT
Well the thing is there's so many powers that could fit. You basicly would mix and max from these.
Minors: Extraordinary PP, PE, PS Flight Glide Flight winged (bat wings)
Danger Sense Hardened Skin Heightened sense of awareness Lightning Reflexes Shadow Meld Shadow shaping Shadow Step Swing line
Awe(Horror)Factor Extraordinary int Shadow Cloak Shadow molding Shadow trap
Majors Darkness control.
APS Shadow (Which would encompase a few of the above) Bulletproof Shadow Manipulation.
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Post by Janus on Jan 18, 2014 5:07:50 GMT
Well the thing is there's so many powers that could fit. You basicly would mix and max from these. Minors: Extraordinary PP, PE, PS Flight Glide Flight winged (bat wings) Danger Sense Hardened Skin Heightened sense of awareness Lightning Reflexes Shadow Meld Shadow shaping Shadow Step Swing line Awe(Horror)Factor Extraordinary int Shadow Cloak Shadow molding Shadow trap Majors Darkness control. APS Shadow (Which would encompase a few of the above) Bulletproof Shadow Manipulation. How many powers can a mutant have?
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Post by Jaymz on Jan 18, 2014 5:09:56 GMT
Depending on how you go about it.....5 minors I think
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Post by damianmagecraft on Jan 18, 2014 5:21:41 GMT
Depending on how you go about it.....5 minors I think up to 5 major and 2 minor (grows in power option on the random powers table).
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Post by Sci-Fi on Jan 18, 2014 5:39:02 GMT
To start I think the limit is 2 or maybe 3 majors and 2 minors.
Damian points out a possibility but it's one you have to build up to with a seldom rolled option, and you have to gain a number of levels to get there.
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Post by Janus on Jan 18, 2014 18:06:16 GMT
So to go Damian's way I would have to have that option, but without it then 5 minors?
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Post by Jaymz on Jan 18, 2014 18:11:53 GMT
I think the key powers would be along the lines of shadow/darkness powers of some kind ahead of almost anything else save a really high intelligence.
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Post by Janus on Jan 18, 2014 18:53:06 GMT
Extraordinary PP, PE, PS Flight winged (bat wings) Danger Sense Shadow Meld Awe(Horror)Factor
Since I can only have 5, I choose these. Being Marvel (mutant) to be called Batman would require some sort of bat-like look so I choose Bat Wings for flight. To be peak human (heh) performance I went with the extraordinary Physicals. To give him Batman's sense of awareness for all things out to kill him Danger Sense. Ninja like appearing and disappearing we will do with Shadow Meld. And last but not least you are not Batman unless you are causing fear in criminals.
It was a hard life for young Peter who had been born with Bat-like wings. His birth parents left him on the doorstep of Peter's Aunt and Uncle, he would never meet them. Later years a teen-aged Peter Parker witnessed the deaths of his Aunt and Uncle. Powerless to stop their deaths at the hands of an unknown assailant he could only swear vengeance. Left with nothing and no other family to take him in, Peter found himself making his way as best he could on the mean streets of New York. Fortunately due to his mutant abilities he was able to survive, strong and agile enough to overpower most who would do him harm and able to hide easily in shadows when the police came. Those he could not fight or hide from soon began telling stories of a frightful monster living in the alleys. He soon found work at a dojo where he earned a place to sleep as well as martial arts. His sensei sensing great potential in young Peter helped him gain admittance into NYU where he studied forensics and other classes related to fighting crime. Upon graduation Peter tried to join New York's finest, but found that legal procedure was too slow for his obsession. He later found that his Uncle and Aunt had set up a trust fund for him and no longer having to work for a living found a comfortable apartment in the heart of New York to use as his base of operations.
Or something like that. I would actually need the book to really understand skills for a full background. As a small note, I choose Peter Parker as the alias just for giggles. I could have left him Bruce Wayne, but since I was going for a mutant and not meta that screamed Marvel. Marvel likes New York so there is the setting for this fellow. Peter Parker at that point just seemed a natural mashup.
Next up - Spiderman (non-powered) DC style (mwahahahahaha).
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Post by Jaymz on Jan 18, 2014 19:21:24 GMT
Only thing is you have 7 not 5. You have three physicals.
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Post by damianmagecraft on Jan 18, 2014 19:44:25 GMT
Next up - Spiderman (non-powered) DC style (mwahahahahaha). Marvel beat you to it. Marvel Mangaverse Spider Man... Last surviving member of the (I am not kidding here...) Spider Ninja clan.
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Post by Janus on Jan 18, 2014 21:40:21 GMT
Only thing is you have 7 not 5. You have three physicals. Those were 3? I should have realized that. In that case Extra PP. Anyway, when/if I get my books I will work on skills. I have another project for them as well.
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Post by Janus on Jan 18, 2014 21:40:55 GMT
Next up - Spiderman (non-powered) DC style (mwahahahahaha). Marvel beat you to it. Marvel Mangaverse Spider Man... Last surviving member of the (I am not kidding here...) Spider Ninja clan. Yes... of course he is.
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Post by damianmagecraft on Jan 18, 2014 22:01:43 GMT
Marvel beat you to it. Marvel Mangaverse Spider Man... Last surviving member of the (I am not kidding here...) Spider Ninja clan. Yes... of course he is. that same universe made Hulk a Kaiju and Ironman a giant mecha.
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Post by Janus on Jan 18, 2014 22:21:31 GMT
that same universe made Hulk a Kaiju and Ironman a giant mecha. I can actually see that really.
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Post by writersblock on Jan 21, 2014 7:39:06 GMT
See, I would say Flight Glide or Wingless (so he can maintain a secret ID and such without wings),Extra PP (pretty obvious why), Extra IQ (with the option that gets you more skills...the TMNT one), Immortality (via Lazarus Pit), Extra MA (to further make his Martial Art powers like "Unnerve at the Outset" methods)... stuff like that.
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Post by Janus on Jan 21, 2014 17:06:34 GMT
See, I would say Flight Glide or Wingless (so he can maintain a secret ID and such without wings),Extra PP (pretty obvious why), Extra IQ (with the option that gets you more skills...the TMNT one), Immortality (via Lazarus Pit), Extra MA (to further make his Martial Art powers like "Unnerve at the Outset" methods)... stuff like that. Yeah, I thought of wingless, but I really wanted to nail down the mutant aspect of the character. Not sure what the TMNT one is (I really need my books). Immortality is ok, but I really like the aspect of his greatest weakness being two to the chest or head. The extra MA is good, never thought of that (and did not know it existed). Cool fella you have there. I can actually picture him in my head. Are you sticking with a cape (most marvel toons do not have a cape).
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Post by Jaymz on Jan 21, 2014 17:16:56 GMT
Extra PP Extra IQ Extra MA Glide Natural Combat Ability
And if we want to go hog wild...
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Shadowmeld Teleport Extra PE
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Post by Sci-Fi on Jan 21, 2014 18:17:03 GMT
If you use TMNT rules you end up with more Man-bat, than Bat-man.
Which is still fun, but a different thing.
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Post by Janus on Jan 21, 2014 18:17:34 GMT
Extra PP Extra IQ Extra MA Glide Natural Combat Ability And if we want to go hog wild... Add Shadowmeld Teleport Extra PE What is natural combat ability? Like a mimic or just they instinctively know how to use all martial art forms?
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Post by Jaymz on Jan 21, 2014 18:21:01 GMT
Yeah it's an instinctive combat ability. it is a major power.
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Post by Janus on Jan 21, 2014 21:09:21 GMT
Yeah it's an instinctive combat ability. it is a major power. That is cool. I can see him having that.
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Post by writersblock on Jun 3, 2014 23:43:14 GMT
HU2 Cloaking, Alter Metabolism, Night Stalking, Horror Factor, and such make nice additions.
Disruptive Touch could easily reflect some of his Martial Arts abilities....
Heck, make a new power that combines a bunch of these....Alter Physical Structure: Bad Ass....
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